While most guys will pretend that they like a crude girl, the fact is they usually don't. Without getting into a whole argument about gender stereotypes, men tend to be masculine and women tend to be feminine. Of course there are many exceptions to this (see the wrestler Chyna or Pee Wee Herman) but in general men are men and women are women. That being the case, a woman who acts like one of the boys, i.e. perverse and crude, will probably not attract as many men as the opposite.
Some guys think that if a woman talks like a sailor or about sex a lot it means that she is going to be "easy." This is usually far from the truth. Women like this tend to actually be very insecure and are putting on an act. When it comes down to it, the woman is probably just trying to convince people that she's not a prude when in reality she is.
Rule of thumb: The more she talks about sex the more the guy will probably be wary.
agreed, my boyfriend thinks there is nothing worse than a crude woman. i find them to be obnoxious too.
While I generally agree with MM answer, don't let this stop you from being you.
He's right that there are a lot of men that won't like it, but there are also plenty of men that don't like tomboys, sports fanatics, girl mechanics, nerd girls and redheads. That doesn't mean they should stop being those things, but simply accept that some men won't like it.
Confidence in who you are is most important. If that means a tough exterior or being a bit "rough around the edges" then so be it! There is a guy out there for you!
Just not me (or MM, apparently), but I have a buddy or two that would love to meet you.
PS: It also depends on your definition of "extremely perverse" and "crude".
Some girls think talking about sex at all would be "extremely perverse" and "crude". Very few guys would even blink if that is what you mean. Now if your talking about going at his back door with a whale dildo and cussing like a sailor, that's a whole nuther ball o' wax.
Personally, I like the "kinky" talk, but if a girl starts talking about bestiality, I run the other way.
wait, people don't like redheads? i honestly thought ALL guys were turned on by fire crotches.
lol.
I know MM didn't want to get into gender stereotypes, but it's definitely a double standard here. It's one thing to be crude and perverse, but it also depends HOW crude and perverse you are. Not everyone swears the same and tells the same sex jokes. If guys are running the other way maybe you should think about toning it down cause' they might just be seriously creeped out by what your saying, not the fact that your a girl and saying it.
Honestly, both sexes judge each other hard. Men are going to judge you according to their standards and vice versa. It happens, but don't let it get you down.
I'm like this from time to time, and it does not mean I am insecure. I curse more than some guys, but it doesn't mean I'm shallow, easy or butch. From memory recollection of when I was younger, I can remember more women in my family being more crude than the men. It's how it is sometimes, I don't see how any woman for that matter would be deemed insecure if a woman talks in a crude or perverse matter. Sometimes it's nice to let yourself talk in a fashion where you don't feel the need to be censored by yourself or someone else. I will admit however, there are times when talking in such a manner is inappropriate. But occasionally is just fine as long as there is no mockery of an actual person that you may know of.
I COMPLETELY disagree, I'm sorry.
I'm crude and talk about sex like it's my job. And I am turning guys down left and right. Guys tell me that they love my relaxed nature and honesty about subjects that some woman think are too 'yucky' or 'unladylike' and are too scared or nervous to talk about. I'm blunt and forward, and I have only had literally dozens of guys chase me.
Just sayin!
Thanks! I tend to be pretty staightforward and open about talking about sex and I've NEVER had a guy have a problem with it. They appreciate the openess and comfortablity that i have about the subject.
However, there's a big diffierence between talking about sex and swearing like a sailor. Talking about sex is just being comfortable with one's sexuality, and the other is lacking manners. Plus, I am in no way deperate for attention when i talk about sex.... and its usually with my female friends. It sounds like MM is insecure about HIS sexuality and that's why he feels the need to put down women who are comfortable about theirs.
um... or maybe he just prefers ladies with a bit more class?
Excuse you. I am in no way a Samantha Jones - i dont have one night stands. I dont wear slutty clothing. Dont confuse my comfortableness about sex with me being easy. Talking to close friends and boyfriends candidly about sex does not make me classless. I didnt mean just want I like; but advice on Plan B, or pain during intercourse, various techniques or whatever, I discuss. Not being able to speak about sex comfortably makes one FRIGID. Get your nose out of the air and go masturbate or something.
the things you say you talk about have nothing to do with being perverse or crude, and thus have nothing to do with this thread. all i'm saying is don't call MM "sexually insecure" because he doesn't like crude women.
Half of MM's message was about women who talk about sex. Read it again if you missed it....
"Some guys think that if a woman talks like a sailor or about sex a lot it means that she is going to be "easy." This is usually far from the truth. Women like this tend to actually be very insecure and are putting on an act. When it comes down to it, the woman is probably just trying to convince people that she's not a prude when in reality she is.
Rule of thumb: The more she talks about sex the more the guy will probably be wary."
He just said women who talk about sex are really prudes putting on an act. That's what I was commenting on, and clearly its on topic, if its half the content of the answer. Did you only read the top paragraph or something??
**** mean just TALK about what i like*****
um... or maybe he just prefers ladies with a bit more class?
Class has nothing to do with any of this.
Sex should be talked about openly. If you're the kinda person who likes dirty jokes, you should make them, and watch as you end up surrounding yourself with the kind of friends you actually want.
Once again, another answer from MM that is massively flawed. In behaviour, when women are socially accepted to behave any way they like, guess what? They do. There's a huge range of types of people, and very very little of human personality has anything to do with your sex or gender.
And the "women like this tend to be secure" bit? I highly doubt that's based on hundreds of this sort of woman opening themselves up to you about this, or on studies that you've read, so it's clearly an ignorant assumption based on hours of perpetuated tv/movie stereotypes.
Be yourself, and don't let the confined minds of people like MM put you off from being exactly who you want to be. :) You'll have a much happier life than if you try to pretend to be some imagined stereotype.
I remember some TV rerun or highlight thing about a chick MTV had as a host or something YEARS ago. I was too young at the time to remember her name or anything but the general gist was that first the male audience liked that she'd burp and fart on air. To some it was like 'Hey cool she's comfortable enough with her body to not hide the fact it does things like fart or burp' and they thought it was awesome at first. Then over time the audience got pretty much disgusted with it as they felt it was crude behaviour to show on TV all the time so she ended up no longer being a host or what ever it was she did. Guys generally don't mind if their lady swears a bit or even lets out an awesome burp time to time but from what I've seen and talked about with my friends guys do prefer women who don't do that ALL the time.
As far as talking about sex? Well shoot look at how many sexist and sex related jokes there are out there! Not to mention the sex stores that sell the toys, outfits, porn, lubes ect ect. Then there's the nudie bars, the nude beaches, even glimpses of side boob now shows on some regular tv shows. So not talking about sex would be like trying to hide the big fat dayglo green elephant in the room, it's flat out not going to be hidden. Again after talking with some friends guys do like when women are comfortable with what they like or don't like to laugh about it and discuss it. Just because one discusses or makes jokes reguarding sex doesn't imply they are going to be easy or gearing up for it like some people think. In my own personal experience it's only when I'm alone with whomever I'm dating and get to talking about sex that it COULD heat up but it doesn't always. So sex talk isn't always a bad deal.
dad's a cop and i'm in theater, which means i'm in no short supply of rude and crude jokes, that being said i like to think i know when to tell the jokes and when to show a bit of decorum, it's all about knowing your audience
Seems to me that Mystery Man is afraid of girls that are open about sex because those girls are free, confident and automatically a threat to a man. Men are usually insecure and think all women are godessess, not to mention the ones that are so comfortable with their own sexuality that makes male heads spin. They are then thinking they coudl never be able to compeltely satisfy such a woman and they woudl never be enough. I just had 2 guys born in a Scorpio sign completely flabbergasted by my personality, when you make Scorpio putty in your hands you must be doing something right, aint it so;)?