I assume you are referring to the age old woman quandry of why men leave the toilet seat up. And yes Virginia, it is trivial.
There is no block to the brain or anything. It just happens. My question for you (and every other woman out there) is why is it such a big deal? Have you fallen in the toilet? Because from where I'm sitting that's your fault. In fact, leaving the toilet seat up is only a problem for individuals who walk to the toilet backwards with their eyes closed and their brains blocked.
Here's something else, you want us to leave the toilet seat down so that you don't fall in or some such other handicap. You want men to be courteous. Where's your courtesy? You don't lift it up for us knowing that we'll come in. You want us to do more work. Be glad we lift the seat in the first place and care about sprinkling all over the place. We lift the seat out of love. Is there any recognition for that?
No.
You should be glad it's up. At least you know that your dude isn't whizzing all over the seat you are going to be sitting on. Speaking of dominance, isn't it dominating that the seat should always remain down in a position that is ideal for YOU? Superiority complex, maybe?
I'm just saying. Stop hating on men about the toilet seat and just look before you leap.
It was written.
You shouldn't be putting just the seat down. The lid needs to go down too. Don't you watch Myth Busters? All of those particles floating onto your toothbrush...
For me, it's an act of chivalry - like opening a door or pulling out my chair at a table. Do I demand it? No, but I do feel respected when my man thinks enough of me to put it back down.
PJ, you ask about my courtesy? Who do you think scrubs that toilet every week - both inside and out?
Exactly. Until you're helping to actually clean the toilet every once in a while, don't complain about this incredibly simple request from your woman.
And yes, I also see it as a chivalry thing. Too bad chivalry is dead to 95% of all men who aren't old enough to be my father.
NO SHIT
ptk for the win here!
this argument is much like the "scrape your plate before you put it in the sink" or the "empty your pockets before you put your clothes in the hamper" arguments.
If your courteous woman is going to do all the legwork for you, quit being a lazy peace of shit and just do the easy part, be grateful you have a woman to do the legwork for you. It's not only about courtesy, its about respect...HAVE SOME!
Good answer, P.
I got into this debate the other night and it is the most asinine argument since the dawn of time.
How much brainpower does it take to simply look where you are about to sit and lower the seat. Oh yeah, getting up in the middle of the night is no excuse either. If you can flush in the dark you can lower the seat. At my crib, you'll either have to adapt or piss of the balcony.
It has nothing to do with chivalry. More to do with common sense. Oops...I'm going to get censored for that.
I realize men will be men, obviously. That's why I don't ask for or demand this kindness. I do look before I sit and if the seat's up, then I put it down and say nothing. The seat being up or down isn't that big of a deal for me.
What does make a big impact though is knowing my man cares enough about me to put it down. I feel valued in his eyes which makes me want to value him in ways that I know he appreciates.
I agree with Panama. I have NEVER ONCE sat down on a toilet seat without first looking, including my own! This argument is therefore irrelevant, and the only people who I could imagine having it are two lazy sacks.
Men can have whatever rules in their own houses, but in other people's they need to return the seat (put it back down) in the position they found it. I know lots people who HAVE fallen in. At night if i go to the bathroom I dont turn on the lights cause they are blinding and there's enough to get around... and I've gotten close to falling in.
Seat down = for everyone who has to poop. It's not just for ladies. There's a reason they call it the toilet SEAT. It's something you sit on. Leave it ready for that, men.
I agree; put it in the position that you find it. When I go to a guy friend's house, I always put the seat back up when I am done because that is how it is when I go in the bathroom most times. I figure men pee much more than they poop, so it is more likely that they will nee it up than down. However, I keep my seet and lid down at home, so I expect it to be returned to that very position by anyone who uses it. Fairly simple, I think.
I put the seat up for my guyfriends....
I don't care about the seat, but I always want the lid down, because I don't want other stuff falling in. Or being put in, back when I had little kids.
Stop with the attitude, Panama.
It's common courtesy, and half the time, men need it down too. It's a seat. You sit on it. Men are the ones who need it in the position it wasn't meant for.
As a girl, I don't think it's reasonable for either sex to expect the toilet seat to be left in a certain position. Boys deserve just as much "courtesy" as girls. And having grown up with two little brothers, I never, ever sit without looking, and I appreciate anyone who lifts the seat to keep it clean! I prefer the lid down so my dog doesn't drink from the toilet and then kiss me, though.
Personally, I've always been taught that everyone should just put the lid down (and whatever else was up while it was in use), as common sense. The lid is provided for a reason- you don't want water spraying up, you don't want things falling in, and if you have pets- yeah. Plus, you'll never know who was the last to use the toilet- so there's no stupid argument when someone wants to pick a fight. Because, seriously? Is this really worth a comment?
I'm sorry, but this age-old battle is so annoying to me. Maybe I'm just lucky that I live in a household where the men have good aim into the toilet.
guys dont poop?
It looks disgusting up. Period. The lid just needs to be down. It's no question of whether women will fall in, because that's not the problem. It's bad presentation to leave the lid AND seat up AND the argument about not spraying the seat is irrelevant when SOME MEN can't even aim right when they DO put the seat up. Trust, I've seen many pee stains under the seat, where men have lifted it and been careless and disgusting.
Age old, irrelevant, stupid, call it what you want, it's a matter of etiquette, cleanliness, and concern. Panama, I hope the underside of your seat is pristine.
hmmm...imagine what brain damage we could do discussing the toilet paper roll position as "over or under"...
I'm just sayin....
It just looks better when not only the seat but also the LID is down. Not only that, but I sleepwalk at times and woke up horrifically when I almost fell in the toilet, several times, b/c my stubborn ex refused to put the seat and the lid down. That is quite a shock, let me tell you. When you're sleepwalking, you're in a dream state and you literally don't notice things you would if you were awake. Obviously I notice when I'm awake and alert that the seat is up, and I put it down, albeit with much grumbling.
It seems to me that if for approximately 75% of all bodily functions (if men and women are in the same house) that the seat should be down, doesn't it make more sense to have the seat down? Even guys only put it up when they're taking a leak; they must have it down when they're taking a crap. Or at least I hope they do. My little brother learned to do this, so there's really no excuse.
You know you sleepwalk. Have you tried just locking doors before you goto sleep. That would make it harder for you to accidentally walk into someplace dangerous. Like a sharp knife in the kitchen.
If you can sleepwalk yourself into a bathroom and maneuver yourself into falling into the toilet, how do you know you wouldn't have just did the same thing with the seat down?
Im so glad I dont have this problem with my fiance!(He was raised by his grandma so he knows all about this issue). But my brother was the worst for leaving the seat up! and falling in is definately possible if your half asleep/or drunk.