Skinny girls are not necessarily more attractive than heavier ones. It really depends on the person interested in the girl.
It's a cliche, but nonetheless true that beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Certainly, if nothing else, the Internet has taught us lust is. Honestly, I've met a lot of physically attractive women that I'd never date because they were either dumb as bricks, nasty as a swarm of wasps, or both. Everybody has their own standards, it's just a matter of finding a person who fits your standards and you fit theirs. It's that simple and that complex.
Good luck!
I'm what you call a "skinny girl" and I have had guys who aren't interested in me because as they say I "need to eat a happy meal", I'm sure you're not attracted curtain types based on looks. It's just how the world works. Big girl small girl it really doesn't matter. If you ever go on those dating websites you'll find that a lot of guys have a 'I don't want a stick girl" preference.
Well said RP. I think what really matters is confidence in yourself! If you are confident, no matter your size, people are drawn to you! Love yourself before you find love!
Exactly.
Amen, bro. I actually sent you a question about similar....my ex of 8 months broke up with me because he ultimately wanted to be with a skinny girl, but said he loves me, and I'm his best friend and he wants to hold onto that. I told him that "I cannot be best friends with someone who doesn't accept me unconditionally. I love you, but I love myself more".
Hard to gather courage to say this, but it was the most important thing to have come out of my mouth in months.
Having is not as fun as wanting, your ex, if he manages to nab such a woman, is going to be SEVERELY disappointed. My ex is a size 0 - an athletic size 0 not a skeletal size 0. Her boobs aren't big but not small either, and she has a beautiful face too. Friends and strangers outright said she has the body of a supermodel.
It was an overrated experience. The way our media builds up women with these body types, I was expecting nuclear bombs not fireworks. The media implies sex with such women is on a whole other level. Alas, the sex was the same as I experienced with normal and even plus women. The same, not better, and maybe even a little less passionate. Certainly nothing different or special. My current has a body nothing like my ex, hers could even be considered slightly chubby. But our sex is passionate, heated, and explodes with intensity. Your ex is in for a world of disappointment. He's going to see such women do not even come close to living up to the hype, sex will not be the best, simply because she has the body the media tells us is ultimate in sexiness. Then he will realize what an idiot he was throwing away a good relationship.
oh right, awesome logic. bravo *slow unenthused clap* you had less than passionate sex with one skinny girl so that MUST mean all skinny girls are bad in bed. both parties in a sexual relationship are accountable to some degree when the sex goes bad, mr. x. a confident woman will have better fireworks in bed no matter what her body size is. when a man makes a woman feel beautiful, even more fireworks. not saying the woman is not responsible for her own confidence, she damn well is. but hearing it from the guy is only going to help his cause. if sex was less than passionate with your gorgeous supermodel figure ex, it wouldn't exactly knock me over with a feather if it was YOU that didn't do it for HER.
Maybe he was boasting but what I think he only say that the sex with a skinny woman not enything special or different, not badder or worse than sex with normal or bigger woman. Even here in russia movies, magazines, tv, all flaunt skinny women like goddeses. Some them look like they just came out of our great famine lol. And at uni the boys always go on and on about how great it would be to fuck a small women like sex with them would be outside of this world Not just russian man even european man who attend my uni talk the same. This very sadding because Im not skinny Im a little fat and boys at my uni dont talk to me much. Not fair too because many man in russia and europe also fat so they hypocrite. It is nice to hear men say normal or even little bit fat women also pretty, also nice to hear I will be able to please a man same as skinny woman can. I know you very hate Mr X but I think sometimes he is helpful. I read here often but not write here often and I remember seeing Mr X he often admit he messes up so I belive him if he say time with his skinny ex gf not super great.
hate is a very strong word, it is a swear word in my house, and i would appreciate you not putting that word into my mouth, thank you. i didnt say i didn't believe him, what i said was that he played a role in the bad sex as well, and that it wasn't just her fault because she is a skinny girl. there are a lot of biases against thin women too, and i know because i am one. heavier women flaunt what they have and get applauded for their confidence, but when thinner women do they get reemed for being cocky or arrogant. i prefer to flaunt what is between my ears than what is between my bra straps but in this image obsessed society it is difficult to find men that give a crap, or they say they do, but they will still be the first ones asking for pics. and women can be pretty hurtful too. there are the ones that will trash the lighter figure girls but will take offense to a fat joke. not that i've ever made one, frankly i would do anything to have a heavier figure but medically speaking it just isn't going to happen. but those are the very girls that will be the first to criticize me. so, the biases and double standards are there on both sides of the fence. flaunt what you have, and embrace yourself regardless of your size. there are silver linings in EVERY dress size. you have an advantage over thinner women where when you do meet guys at least you know they take you seriously for who you are and not for what you look like. "wouldn't it be good to be in your shoes, grass is always greener over there."
You need a large chill pill.
i'm good, thanks lol
Aw thanks. That was what I was trying to say.
I wouldn't go that far to say I'm helpful.
Yeah, I don't think I said that. So sorry. Perhaps you're not aware, but among a lot of men, there is the expectation that sex with people with supermodel like bodies, considered the pinnacle of sexiness, is some kinda next level mindblowing experience way above and beyond sex with normal people. All I actually said was I disproved this wasn't true, that a woman doesn't need to have the body of a supermodel to give and have great sex with a man, and that men don't need a supermodel to experience great sex either.
You think this is a bad thing why?
I am not out on a campaign against skinny or fit people, hell I am one of them, so I would be hating myself! Well, I did actually, for a long long time, but it wasn't because of my physique.
I don't expect you to read most of my comments and I'm suprised you read any, but, I have more than once mentioned my faults, and have acknowlegded my mistakes, including those I did in previous relationships. One of them in this particular relationship was me being dumb enough to believe the hype and set myself up for unrealistic expectations. But I've learned from that, and the other screwups I did, and I did plenty of them.
and all i was saying was, the woman you were with could be great in bed, just not with you. she could be giving many men many mindblowing sexual experiences, just not with you. you were generalizing your experiences with one skinny person to all skinny people by saying to goodkarmagirl that her ex boyfriend was going to be in a world of disappointment by seeking sex with skinny girls, based on one experience that you have had. i agree with you that a great body has no bearing on the quality of the sexual experience, so i don't know why you even said that. it seems contradictory but maybe you are right, maybe i should just stop reading your comments.
I probably could have worded it better, my verbal skills can use much improvements. It isn't outright said among men, but certainly that is the implication. I've been a superficial dumbass who probably passed up quality women, because I was a stupid sheeple who bought hook line and sink that only a thin woman was worth having, I seen and see still guys do it all the time. Eventually some get desperate enough to hookup with a woman they don't find really attractive but still lust after the supermodel type. And because of such behavior, we have websites like Guyspeak. I guess I was trying to say that when a man walks away from a good relationship, because the woman he's with doesn't fit the media criteria of beauty, so he can get with a woman who does (and trust me, he IS expecting the sex to be different and supremely better on that basis!), he will be disappointed that it will probably be the same or not much better, and might even be less pleasurable than he had with the woman he was with before.
I didn't mean to get you riled up and certainly didn't mean to sound like I was on an anti-thin blog.
gotcha. fair enough, thanks.
Christ, what Mr. X is saying is not hard to understand. It makes perfect sense and it's a perfectly fair statement. It's like you're intentionally misunderstanding what he's writing because you're too stubborn to admit you're wrong. Jesus.
neither one of us is wrong. we simply have different opinions. and jesus has nothing to do with it.
I can tell you that as I guy I tend towards average and normal. I'm not particularly attracted to very skinny women and I'm not attracted to very large women. Most all of my S/Os over the past 17 or so years of dating have fallen somewhere between size 8 and 16, with most of them being towards the upper end of that scale... I think that's pretty average. Most of my guy friends would likely say the same as far as women they've dated/married(with the exeption of one rather superficial friend, but hey, there is one in every group).
I guess the turnoff to very skinny or very large is almost subconscious now that I think about it. I guess extremes in either direction lose or distort the femininity that I like - breasts and hips.
Thanks for representing "normalcy" of women like me with a more meat and natural curves. My ex was attracted to large boobs, but on very skinny women. This doesn't occur in nature...it's man made, but he didn't care. His "ideal" was something (I now see in hindsight) that he wanted to achieve to boost his own insecurities. He had said to me one time..."if you were skinny, I'd be so proud to call you my girl and show you off to my friends". This wasn't some teenage guy. He was 50 years old.
If he wasn't so superficial... You might still be proud to call him your boyfriend.
What a dick.
Size 8 to 16 is not normal, that's fat to obese.
Size eight is NOT fat. Some if the most beautiful women I've ever know are right around the size 7 to 9 range. Besides a tall size 8 is rather skinny, it's hard to base fat on dress size alone.
This is true. I wasn't taking height into consideration. But generally, size 10+ will put someone in the overweight to obese category. Especially if they're not that tall.
It's a touchy subject for me. I have abnormally large breasts, and by abnormally large, I mean I tried on a 40G the other day and it fit me. The rest of my body is small by comparison... not small compared to Kate Moss, but small in comparison to my breasts. In dresses, if they run really large, I can wear an 8 or a 10, and if they run really small, I can wear a 16. It really depends on how much room designers are willing to allow for my girls. By the way, I am not clinically overweight. I just thought I'd give you a little perspective.
Most people want to "categorize" where fat begins for their own sense of understanding or judgement. Obesity is diagnosed based upon clinical factors (ex: Body Mass Index), but often the public aligns "health" with weight. I am certainly overweight for my height, but I out "fitnessed" my so called perfectly athletic boyfriend, with my ability to hike further than he, without fatigue or heavy breathing, and my double duration of cardio at the gym. His last girlfriend was diagnosed with bulimia, but all he would say to defend her appeal is that "yah, maybe she needed therapy but she looked good because she was skinny". I dislike when many say they want a woman (or man) who is skinny because it's about health. No it's not. Let's be honest. It's about looking like what they fantasize about.
The average woman in the US is a size 14 - not a vanity sized size 14, but a real size 14. Without going into specifics, I'll say that my wife is heavier than what the media considers ideal. And guess what? It doesn't bother me one bit - she is incredibly sexy to me and she knows it and subsequently she knows how to get me all hot'n'bothered. And before ya complain about "oh, but it's sooo unhealthy" - I can honestly tell that she's incredibly healthy with better blood pressure, heart rate, triglycerides and cholesterol than anyone I know.
That girl who you think is an "obese" size 12 could loose weight if she wanted, but you are stuck with a terminal case of "stupid asshole" sorry honey :(
Thank you. It nice to hear some men not think normal or even big woman ugly. :)
A lot of it is societal- there are othe cultures, say the mauritanians for example, who prefer larger women findig thin women to be a disgrace. In our western culture thin seems to subconciously equate self control and even financial stability while in other cultures it signifies a failure to develop or poverty. It just depends and I think the more larger women stand upfor themselves the less social assumptions will be attatched to them.
But we in the West do need to be honest with ourselves, the vast majority of the people overweight are do to self control issues. Our media encourages to put the blame on something else, anything else, but ourselves. Virtually every peer-reviewed scientific study shows, however, at most, only 3% of the population have medical conditions that would cause one to be obese.
The truth of the matter is that in the US we live in an obesogenic culture: a culture that it promotes weight gain. Most people live sedentary lifestyles, working in cubicles, driving everywhere (no sidewalks or everything is too spread out), the food choices unless you cook everyday are laden with salt, fat and sugar. Saying that it all boils down to "willpower" is a gross mischaracterization. There's so much more to it than that.
A lot of the time people look at overweight people and assume that they are lazy or have no willpower. When they look at a skinny person they see a person in control. But that's mostly prejudice.
A large part of this trend is media. Even the very definition of what constitutes "skinny" versus "fat" has changed. Growing up the statue Venus de Milo statue was considered normal, but now the media insists the statue being obese. People try to dismiss media or cultural influence, but when prevailing cultural standards for attractiveness are so pervasive as our media can make them, the general population accepts them as the measure for attractiveness. Further, that most of the top celebrities tend to have the thin or athletic body type, many desire to have partners of similar body types as well.
In any LTR, obviously "inner attractiveness" must exist. Yet, it is foolish to pretend that outer beauty does not matter. It's a lie played to us by the media, the very same media that rubs in our collective faces of what constitutes attraction. Even people who have been too often judged solely or even largely on their outside will insist on partners they see as attractive on the outside. It is our instinct, and the instinct to procreate is by far the most powerful of them all. No one ever had a one-night stand because they thought they only looked good on the inside.
it is totally the Mind Set of the GIRL - that matters.
women who think they are sexy - look sexy. I am not talking about extremes of sizes but average to plus size women are perfectly fine and those who *feel* feminine, appear feminine to men.
I am 'plus' size, and when I am happy and confident and feeling good inside, men swarm around, it is a subtle Pull and it has little to do with much else.
Yeah, I would rather be with a plus size woman who felt good about herself and fun to be with than a skinny athletic type, like my ex, who needed constant coddling and was a control freak. And the sex was only soso, nothing special or remarkable...
There's no such thing as universally attractive; the media just promotes a certain type. It's a fad. Some men like round girls, some like pear shaped, some like sticks. And some men are so wimpy, they won't admit to their peers their true type! Anyway, whatever your body shape, work it. There is someone out there that's looking for you, and you're being counter productive if you're hiding it.
> "Don't you think people should look on the inside not the outside?"
Only in an ideal fantasy world.
Don't you want to be PHYSICALLY attracted to someone you're going to be in a PHYSICAL romantic relationship with?
People need to learn that not being attracted to someone is not a crime. Attraction is an unpredictable, funny thing. It can't be explained or put in a box. It just is. And it's different for everyone.
On the other hand, a lot of people maybe need to reevaluate what it is that they find attractive. That's not to say they should date someone they find UNattractive.
Strangely enough, skinny men are more attractive than fat men as well.
The most attractive of all people are those who are healthy. We don't exactly dive for people who could start having all sorts of problems by the time they are 35. Which brings me to my point: we don't hate fat people. We just don't want to go through all the health issues.
You cannot tell what health issues a person has by their size. You can only tell their size. There are healthy heavy people and unhealthy thin ones. The "all fat people are unhealthy and costing us money" lie has been fed to us by the multiBILLION dollar diet industry.
I have been heavy all of my adult life. In the last five years of my working life, I have called in only twice for health reasons: once for severe menstrual pain and once because I had the Norovirus. Neither of these issues is related to my weight.
The third time I called in during the past five years was because my father died. This certainly had nothing in the world to do with my weight.
The last time I went to the emergency room was last year due to a panic attack. This has nothing to do with my weight. The time before that was in 2006 due to an inner ear problem. Which also had nothing to do with my weight.
I have mild hypertension, which tends to be hereditary in my family. Mine onset at age 45. My younger brother, who is not overweight, developed hypertension when he was in his teens.
The so called "obesity diseases" are actually diseases of aging.
Obesity also occurs more often in the lower classes. The food available to people in the underclasses is not as nutritious.
To sum it up, the only thing that you can tell by looking at a fat person is that they are fat. You have no idea whether or not they are healthy.
The question is a bit like asking 'why are oranges more tasty than apples?'
The fact is some like oranges, some like apples, some like both, some oranges are mouldy, some apples are mouldy, some like neither. Some don't like fruit at all.
My girlfriend is a size 14 and she eats healthier than anyone I know. She refuses to eat junk food, she buys everything low sodium, whole wheat, only drinks 1% milk, all that stuff. She has been larger than what society tells us is acceptable since she was a kid, and not from overeating or eating an unhealthy diet.
And you know what? She doesn't care. She has an iron deficiency so she's always getting checked up reularly and other than that [which has nothing to do with her size, its apparently runs in her family] she has no health problems.
Shes pretty, shes fun, I love spending time with her, and shes damn sexy. I love seing her wear nothing but a long t-shirt to bed where I can see those bum cheeks just sticking out. Needless to say the shirt is lost pretty quick when that happens. As for me, I'm just under 6 feet, weigh about 150lb and wear a size 32 with a belt to keep my pants from falling off my lack of an ass. When I first applied to the army I was told I was gorsly underweight [probably about 125 at the time]. Im sure if you had put me in some skinny jeans, and had me stare off into the distance making some stupid face with a bit of stubble, and taken a black and white photo I'd have made a good CK ad boy, but does that mean I was healthy? Hell no.
The media lies, and people are confused.
Why are skinny girls more attractive then heavier ones?
A girl is attractive to a guy for her whole being not just her physical.
If you are a bigger size and you could loose weight, go ahead if that's gonna make you feel better. If you are small frame and could get little thicker, go ahead if that makes you feel better. If you can't do anything to change the way you look, well just embrace it cuz we are all heading to the same direction.... getting old, wrinkled, and saggy skin.
my baby (girlfreind)is a stripper,at 32dd 23 33, and a soild size 0, 5 foot 6 inches. what am i in for? she claims that she is in love with me, met about 3 years ago, and been dating about 11 months. she works out and runs every day, to keep in perfect shape, she is 26, im older by quite a bit.
my baby (girlfreind)is a stripper,at 32dd 23 33, and a soild size 0, 5 foot 6 inches.103.5 to 107.5 pounds. Just what am i in for? she claims that she is in love with me, met about 3 years ago, and been dating about 11 months. she works out and runs every day, to keep in perfect shape, she is 26, im older by quite a bit.