Like any of us who've rolled the dice in the dating casino, sometimes we hit black jack, sometimes we score a royal flush and other times we find ourselves chased around the parlor floor by a Class A psychotic. A self aggrandizing nut sack we mistakenly went on one date with, who now can't take a hint, won't leave us alone and can't figure out the answer to any of their questions or advances is NO. NO. Hell to the motherf*ckin' N.O.
Let me explain. This week The Internet gods smiled widely upon me when I was alerted to a virile gem brutally spreading like a rash of diarrhea around a summer camp. It is a PSA of sorts, so jaw dropingly awesome and cringy it just may be unparalleled in The Internet Olympics of Shame Department.
The gem I'm referring to is below. A 1600+ word batsh*t email (personal manifesto; manic rambling; hate love hate love hate letter) penned by a dude named Mike (a New York investment manager), and received by a lucky lady named Lauren (our humble hero).
The backstory is simple. Lauren went on a date with Mike. Mike had a good time. Mike followed up with Lauren through many a voicemail and texts in search of date number two. But, to no avail.
Now, at some point in our dating lives, we've all felt a bit...burnt, like Mike. A few days after a seemingly good first date who hasn't felt a bit caught off guard when our calls and emails are being uniformly dismissed. Doesn't she like Tex-Mex food and Adam Sandler impressions? Doesn't he like setting up my printer while I talk to my girlfriends?
But unlike Mike, most of us hear the deafening sound of crickets and move on. We realize that we are not playing tennis with a partner, but playing wall ball alone. We realize that if Lauren had a .0003% interest in seeing us again she'd have let us know by now.
Well, Mikey couldn't let it go. And lucky for us, Lauren has published the proof. Mike's email is like the Holy Grail of Insanity. For much of the letter he itemizes Laurens flaws, insults her, handicaps the date and demands various apologies for her violations. Other times he defends his family job, takes jabs at women and lists his similarities with Lauren. Similarities like classical music and....actually that's the only one he came up with.
Some other standouts for me include:
I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens. Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you haven't returned my messages) than I did at our first date. However, I would be willing to go out with you again.
It's bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if you're not interested in going out with me again.
Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:
-We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, I've never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.
So here it is:
Upon completion and vomiting let us know, have you ever been "Mike'd" like this? Any one willing to admit they've "Mike'd out" on someone?
*********************************************************************************************************** Hi Lauren,
I'm disappointed in you. I'm disappointed that I haven't gotten a response to my voicemail and text messages.
FYI, I suggest that you keep in mind that emails sound more impersonal, harsher, and are easier to misinterpret than in-person or phone communication. After all, people can't see someone's body language or tone of voice in an email. I'm not trying to be harsh, patronizing, or insulting in this email. I'm honest and direct by nature, and I'm going to be that way in this email. By the way, I did a google search, so that's how I came across your email.
I assume that you no longer want to go out with me. (If you do want to go out with me, then you should let me know.) I suggest that you make a sincere apology to me for giving me mixed signals. I feel led on by you.
Things that happened during our date include, but are not limited to, the following:
-You played with your hair a lot. A woman playing with her hair is a common sign of flirtation. You can even do a google search on it. When a woman plays with her hair, she is preening. I've never had a date where a woman played with her hair as much as you did. In addition, it didn't look like you were playing with your hair out of nervousness.
-We had lots of eye contact during our date. On a per-minute basis, I've never had as much eye contact during a date as I did with you.
-You said, "It was nice to meet you." at the end of our date. A woman could say this statement as a way to show that she isn't interested in seeing a man again or she could mean what she said--that it was nice to meet you. The statement, by itself, is inconclusive.
-We had a nice conversation over dinner. I don't think I'm being delusional in saying this statement.
In my opinion, leading someone on (i.e., giving mixed signals) is impolite and immature. It's bad to do that.
Normally, I would not be asking for information if a woman and I don't go out again after a first date. However, in our case, I'm curious because I think our date went well and that there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship. Of course, it's difficult to predict what would happen, but I think there is a lot of potential for a serious relationship developing between us one day (or least there was before your non-response to my voicemail and text messages).
I think we should go out on a second date. In my opinion, our first date was good enough to lead to a second date.
Why am I writing you? Well, hopefully, we will go out again. Even if we don't, I gain utility from expressing my thoughts to you. In addition, even if you don't want to go out again, I would like to get feedback as to why you wouldn't want to go again. Normally, I wouldn't ask a woman for this type of feedback after a first date, but this is an exception given I think we have a lot of potential.
If you don't want to go again, then apparently you didn't think our first date was good enough to lead to a second date. Dating or a relationship is not a Hollywood movie. It's good to keep that in mind. In general, I thought the date went well and was expecting that we would go out on a second date.
If you're not interested in going out again, then I would have preferred if you hadn't given those mixed signals. I feel led on. We have a number of things in common. I'll name a few things: First, we've both very intelligent. Second, we both like classical music so much that we go to classical music performances by ourselves. In fact, the number one interest that I would want to have in common with a woman with whom I'm in a relationship is a liking of classical music. I wouldn't be seriously involved with a woman if she didn't like classical music. You said that you're planning to go the NY Philharmonic more often in the future.
As I said, I go to the NY Philharmonic often. You're very busy. It would be very convenient for you to date me because we have the same interests. We already go to classical music performances by ourselves. If we go to classical music performances together, it wouldn't take any significant additional time on your part. According to the internet, you're 33 or 32, so, at least from my point of view, we're a good match in terms of age. I could name more things that we have in common, but I'll stop here. I don't understand why you apparently don't want to go out with me again. We have numerous things in common. I assume that you find me physically attractive. If you didn't find me physically attractive, then it would have been irrational for you to go out with me in the first place. After all, our first date was not a blind date. You already knew what I looked like before our date. Perhaps, you're unimpressed that I manage my family's investments and my own investments. Perhaps, you don't think I have a "real" job. Well, I've done very well as an investment manager. I've made my parents several millions of dollars.
That's real money. That's not monopoly money. In my opinion, if I make real money, it's a real job. Donald Trump's children work for his company. Do they have "real" jobs? I think so. George Soros's sons help manage their family investments. Do they have "real" jobs? I think so. In addition, I'm both a right-brain and left-brain man, given that I'm both an investment manager and a philosopher/writer. That's a unique characteristic; most people aren't like that. I've never been as disappointed and sad about having difficulty about getting a second date as I am with you. I've gone out with a lot of women in my life. (FYI, I'm not a serial dater. Sometimes, I've only gone out with a woman for one date.) People don't grow on trees. I hope you appreciate the potential we have.
Am I sensitive person? Sure, I am. I think it's better to be sensitive than to be insensitive. There are too many impolite, insensitive people in the world.
I suggest that we continue to go out and see what happens. Needless to say, I find you less appealing now (given that you haven't returned my messages) than I did at our first date. However, I would be willing to go out with you again. I'm open minded and flexible and am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt. I wish you would give me the benefit of the doubt too. If you don't want to go out again, in my opinion, you would be making a big mistake, perhaps one of the biggest mistakes in your life. If you don't want to go out again, then you should have called to tell me so. Even sending a text message would have been better than nothing. In my opinion, not responding to my messages is impolite, immature, passive aggressive, and cowardly. I spent time, effort, and money meeting you for dinner. Getting back to me in response to my messages would have been a reasonable thing for you to do. In addition, you arrived about 30 minutes late for our date. I'm sure you wouldn't like it if a man showed up thirty minutes late for a first date with you.
If you're concerned that you will hurt my feelings by providing specific information about why you don't want to go with me again, well, my feeling are already hurt. I'm sad and disappointed about this situation. If you give information, at least I can understand the situation better. I might even learn something that is beneficial.
If you don't want to go out again, that I request that you call me and make a sincere apology for leading me on (i.e., giving me mixed signals). In my opinion, you shouldn't act that way toward a man and then not go out with him again. It's bad to play with your hair so much and make so much eye contact if you're not interested in going out with me again. I have tried to write this email well, but it's not perfect. Again, I'm not trying to be harsh, insulting, patronizing, etc. I'm disappointed, sad, etc. I would like to talk to you on the phone. I hope you will call me back at xxx-xxx-xxxx> (if it's inconvenient for you to talk on the phone when you read this email, you can let me know via email that you are willing to talk on the phone and I'll call you). If you get my voicemail, you can a leave a message and I can call you back. Even if you don't want to go out again, I would appreciate it if you give me the courtesy of calling me and talking to me. Yes, you might say things that hurt me, but my feelings are already hurt. Sending me an email response (instead of talking on the phone) would better than no response at all, but I think it would be better to talk on the phone. Email communication has too much potential for misinterpretation, etc.
Best, Mike
Damn. Just damn..., lol
I have read this a couple of times as it's made the rounds on the interwebs. Part of me had the same reaction as everyone else...DAMN! Then the part of me that is a Mom raising a son with Asperger's Syndrome (an autism spectrum disorder) had a raising-hair-on-the-back-of-my-neck moment. His responses seem very Aspie-like. So I guess I'm torn on this one.
Just my 2cents :)
I have a brother with asperger's, and this sounded familiar to me as well. This breaks my heart. What if he does have a mental illness and this was a sincere attempt in pursuing someone? Can you imagine how the reactions to this will hurt him? The man never threatened this woman, he just wanted answers. I'm sorry, but I'm not finding this funny at all.
I had to stop reading...can you say crazy?!
.. Wow.
Can you say desperate.....
"That's real money. That's not Monopoly money."
This entire e-mail is just so quotable! Not to mention totally insane.
That just made my morning!!!!! Thanks funny guy!
That just made my morning!!!!! Thanks funny guy!
Holy Mother of...
Someone, somewhere is out there looking for this guy. I bet he has a serial number tatooed behind his ear.That is not normal.
Poor Lauren.
When I didn't return an insane amount of txts and calls from a guy (who i'd went out with once) - he went as low as leaving me a voicemail saying that he desperately needed to talk to me because he feared he might have given me an STI.. (we had never slept together) - Classy.
Maybe he's friends with Mike now...
It's funny, very amusing, but I have to wonder if this is actually a real email someone wrote, or some kind of hoax, like one of those "stolen kidney" emails. Just find this hard to believe anyone, even a man, could write such a cheesy, desperate email.
I had to stop.
I've been bombarded by emails as well. I've learned that people don't like to be in limbo so even though I hate it I will tell someone whether or not I want to see them again.
She should have responded and said fuck off. But then we wouldn't have this gem.
My first reaction was literally to vomit. I would be scared if I got that letter from someone...but, like a previous poster, I have alot of experience with Depression, Obsessive compulsive disorder and anxiety disorder. He must have one or a combination of things going on.
Whoa....What......I just can't.
I'm gonna pray for you Mike.
Lauren I hope you've changed your number and made your FB account private.
Damn, damn, DAMN!
This took multiple sessions at the keyboard to type, because he starts it over 3 or 4 times.."I suggest that we continue to go out"...
I see a petulant child in that letter, unused to getting his way-and if his only job is to manage his parents' money, I can see why-he doesn't have experience in the regular workplace so rejection is not something he gets a lot.
I'm going to smash this viral to pieces.
As promised, I smashed this thing to pieces. Mike would definitely not want to date me. http://cbcf.groupsite.com/discussion/topic/show/525889