Actual conversation I had with one of my female cousins:
Panama's cousin: I'm telling you P, every chick...I'm telling you.
Pontificatious Panama: I just don't believe that...
Panama's cousin: Believe what you want, fact is, every woman has thought seriously about hooking up with another woman.
Interestingly, I have had this conversation with quite a few women I know. Of course, all of those women are lesbians so perhaps for them it was just a self-fulfilling prophesy.
But, alas, it begs the question: have all women considered switching teams? I'd like to say that this is total bullox, but truth be told...
...I believe it.
There are a few reasons for this. For one, nearly every woman I know has made some sort of joke that they're going to give up men for women since all men suck, or are in jail...or suck in jail. Rarely (if ever) will you hear a man EVER say that women are on that BS so he's going to give up women. Granted, women can laugh it off because in large part, we KNOW that a lot of men aren't holding up their end of the bargain. It's understood to be a joke, whereas if a man was to say that, we'd look at him with all the suspicion of Mike Tyson saying he's learned the errors of his ways.
But on the other hand, people say (not sure who these people are, but for the sake of argument let's assume we're talking about smart people like Aristotle, Kofi Annan, and R.Kelly's defense team) that there is truth in jest - which leads me to believe that though many women haven't considered it in depth, perhaps they haven't ruled it out altogether either.
Women pay as much attention (if not more) to women as men do. Heck, fellas, your girl might be willing to have a conversation with you about how good some woman's sweaterpuppies looked. I've never been out and seen a dude and been like, "you know, that's a well put together dude."
Many women are very appreciative of the female form. They know a hot chick when they see one and love a nice set of hooters just as much as any man. Now that doesn't mean they want to play with them since generally they have their own but you never know.
I'm not saying this is law, but I do tend to think that most women have considered it at least once. Catch a chick after a bad breakup and she just might be willing to test her limits.
And then there's the best reason of all...I'm a lesbian. So I can completely understand it.
Dispute it if you want, but my science is better than your science. And my God tells me I'm right.
It was written.
You know, I love gays. They are fun and like girls but will not scam you like many men do. But I just don't understand how a man can like another man when they have the option of women.
Women are so fantastic, I don't know why anyone would go for anything else!
Which is whyy..... I can understand lesbians! Women are just in general easier on the eyes than men!
I, however, am stuck with men because I just don't like women in that way. There are some days though where I have wished to like women better!
But there are just some things men have that just wouldn't be as fun with women in the sexual department ;)
Here's the place to admit it, I guess... I have had that thought... just wondered what it would be like to be with another woman. Never acted on it, WON'T act on it... but I will admit that I've had a curious thought or two about it. LOL
BUT I think there are also a LOT of women who've thought about it, and will NEVER ever admit that they have!!! Me, I like honesty. It suits me. *grin*
my thoughts are based from media, i know a hot girl, i'm comfortable enough with myself to know that i can comment but have no interest in vajayjays so a hot girl may make me think hot - i want sex now, but it creates an urge for penises...
so it's not like i want a women, tv has taught me hot women = sex...lol
Of course I've thought about it! I don't think it's a big deal at all and have no problem saying that I have seriously thought/considered about being with a woman. The thing is, people get really hung up on labels: straight, gay, bi, but sexuality is a spectrum and while I feel very strongly about my absolute love of men, PJ is right, women can definitely appreciate the female form and there have been a number of women who I've thought about being with.
The difference of course, is whether or not I would/could actually be with a woman, and when I found out the answer was no* I realized, ok, that's the place where I stop sliding toward homosexuality on the sex scale.
*Note: It didn't even take a close sexual encounter for me to know *I* (totally cool for everyone else!) wasn't comfortable with it. Just one intimate touch of the arm made me jump back and recognize that thinking and doing are very, very different.
I think most women consider it at some point or another, whether they are fed up with men or just curious.
Because I'm a science geek I'll tell you this: There is a very good reason why women look at other women. It's to size up the competition. Studies have shown that if you ask a woman to rate pictures of other women as to how attractive a man would find that woman, her scores will closely match those of men rating the pictures. (Men can't rate other men like a woman would.) This means that a woman can accurately evaluate how attractive a man would find another woman so she can decide if it's worth her while to compete with her.
Basically, we know where a guy is coming from when he says that girl is hot because we can see it too. :)
I've honestly never considered dating women because I'm just too much into men lol. But just because I've never considered dating them doesn't mean I can't look at another lady at the mall or whereever and comment on how that top and cut and color combo makes her chest look smooth or her curves cute. Or that they have nice eyes or other facial features. I'm comforatble with myself to know that when I look at other women i can honestly say this or that thing is cute about her and know that's all it means. Though I learned to never make those comments around my now EX as he thought it meant I wanted to do that lady I commented on -.- Seriously if I wanted girls why would I date men? I'm a 1 gender 1 person at a time kind of dater XD
Two words; Christina Hendricks. Tell me you would not hit that. She's a L-A-D-Y, in every sense of the word.
I swear if she ever switches teams, I want to be one of the first ones to sleep with her and I'm straight!
I always just thought that since women are conditioned to be more affectionate than men that we can be more honest admitting when another women is really hot. Plus, I think when we threaten to switch from men to women, we really don't think about the sexual part of it... We just think of it as even more of a gaggle fest of chicky friendship.
I agree with jels on this one... When I see a hot woman, I acknowledge that she's hot nd it does make me horny but horny for penis... I can see how that might b hard for some to understand... But it just reminds me of hot steamy sex with a hunky man!
Oh yeah. It's defininately true. The term is "girl-crush". For examples my girl-crushes are Jessica Alba (circa Dark angel), that insanely beautiful girl from my dance class, the barista at the Sarbucks, and Rosario Dawson. I'm straight and would probably never enter into a real relationship with a woman, but I'll be the first to admit that some women are just so captivating that you can't help wanting to get close to them. And women tend to be much more accessable than a cute guy that makes you nervous.
In a semi-related topic- Has anyone seen Marissa Tomei lately?! She looks hotter than ever! And those legs...
Meh...I don't know. I could argue that men are just as fixed on their sexuality as we are but that doesn't give them latent homosexual tendencies. Women may be more open about talking about all facets of their sexuality, but that doesn't exactly give us lesbian tendencies either. I think some men just usually take it that way. "Ooh, you said that chick is hot that means you want to sleep with her. Ooh." But I guess that's not the point here either.
Anyway, if I saw a pretty girl I'd be more like to say something like, "aw, she's cute...bitch."
So, yeah....don't know what I'm saying anymore.
Have you seen Ciara's "Ride" video? That had me second guessing my team fo' sho.
I think youre right, Panama. But youre missing the point, theres more gay men out there than lesbians....odds are that women cant find any men! or decent men! I agree our standards are high....but there are many women out there who do fit our criteria of a great partner when the men fail miserably. SIGH. Lowering a womans standard is like telling her that she will divorce because she took the advice, LOWERED HER StANDARDS. And he cheated or hes the jerk you hated in the first place. Or hes that terribly nice, decent man who hardly ignites us and let us stomp all over his scrawny ass.
Point is...its hard finding the right guy. You think you did...and eventually you realize it was BS from the beginning. Girls tend to look real good then!!!!
Yes, I have seriously thought about it. Even had the opportunity once but didn't act on it. Most of my girl friends have also thought about it. Men suck in SOOOO many ways. Girls rock in inumerable ways. We should rule the world.
I dont agree, yes I think some women are pretty but i would never actuallty do anything with them, I like men to much sometimes I dont understand how men like women sometimes! lol women are great but not for me, prob if i was a guy I would be a gay guy, love me some sexy men!
No, not true. I've never thought about it at all. Guys are too cool. =) I can't stand how ridiculous the majority of my gender is. No offense to those fantastic women out there-- just saying that the bitchy, bossy, selfish, plastic, perfect female stereotype does exist, and I hates it.
I think I'll stick to men. They can kill the spiders for me. :P
"Played in the minors, but never went Pro..."
I don't think I could go into a full-on girl-on-girl relationship.... They're great kissers and awesome listeners, but they lack in a very important department that insues my total and utter gratification.
So althought I've more than toyed with the idea...sorry ladies I'm stickin' with this team...
I had a convo like this with a lesbian friend of mine (she has a partner already), and while I had her laughing her head off with my sarcasm, I don't know if I could ever "bat for the other side," so to speak. No matter how pesky, annoying, childish and crazy men can be at times, I'm the first to admit that the female drama must be awful to deal with, especially if you don't really understand it. Those hormone swings really suck eggs.
I'll admit that being with another woman has crossed my mind, but that's as far as it's gone. Living in a nearly all-female household for 10 years (my poor brother being the only male) has milked that cactus dry. Then when all the girls "cycle" around each other, AAAAAAAAGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Point being, being with another woman instead of a man probably sounds nicer than it really is. Plus, men have this certain body part, also known as THE WAND OF POWER!
In our culture, women are sex objects, not men. Women are to lusted after. Women are just as subjected to all the same billboards and movies and pornos that men are. No one surrounded by this much sexualization of females could possibly not think of them as sex objects. We see women as sexual beings because that's the only way they're ever presented to us.
I'm not saying that it's all the media's doing. There are lots of reasons behind this phenomenon:
-girl on girl is encouraged, and considered hot. Ironically, girls who make out in public are usually doing so to attract a guy.
-men are just as bi-curious as women are, but, men being in power, the idea of that gender reversal is threatening to the very fibres of society. No one cares what females do behind closed doors because they don't matter. But a man taking on the role of a woman is a debasement and a threat to the established order of the world (I'm not just talking out of my ass. There have been serious studies on this)
-even on an individual level, homosexuality freaks men out, and carries with it a much larger stigma.
-men are not encouraged to make themselves attractive the same way that women are, and when they do, it's considered douchey. Meanhwhile, movies always show the girl ending up with the guy they weren't attracted to (while the guy they were attracted to usually ends up trying to rape them). This teaches women that being attracted to men is somehow wrong, but their sexual impulses still have to go somewhere.
-men suck.
The fact that not all women succumb to the pressure to "experiment" shows that a) homo/heterosexuality really is ingrained and not a choice, and b) we must really really like the cock.
Like so many things, it all comes down to socialization. No big surprise there.